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轉貼 - 韓國人有病...連王建銘也被視為大韓民族
不知道韓國人在想甚麼??這樣做會更讓人看不起的!
端午節.中醫變韓醫.現在連中文也變它們的了!呵呵....... = =" 我們台灣棒球明星王建銘也........ >"< 從國外網站上看的,先貼原貼再簡單翻譯一下: posted: fri nov 22, 2002 12:37 am post subject: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- chinese histＯrian like to twist the histＯry around, everybody know about it. u just need to look at the baduk/weiqi intellectual game, kＯrean always easily beat down chinese .if this is really your invention, why chinese done so poＯrly? Ａnd look also at the spＯrt, the wＯrld cup, chinese also done very badly if compare to kＯrean. in modern technology, kＯrean made products like samsung, lg, hyundai,kia are popular everywhere, where is chinese? a population of 1.3 billion can't beat down a small nation with only 40 million , Ｏr 80 million if u want include nＯrth kＯre, but still we done much better than chinese in almost every area. the truh is out there, is just depend on you guys weather want to accept it Ｏr not. many chinese histＯrian in china also agree that dongyi was kＯrean Ａnd the creatＯr fＯr da'wek kou culture. it was also recoded in shi ji from shima ji. 翻譯: 中國的曆史學家喜歡歪曲曆史,這是誰都知道的事情. 你只要看一看＂圍棋＂這個智力項目,韓國人總是打敗中國人.如果它是中國人發明的,那中國人怎麼表現總是那麼糟糕?世界杯也是同樣的例子. 在現代的技術中,韓國人創造的三星.lg,現代,起亞風靡世界,中國人在哪呢? 13億打敗不了一個4千萬的民族,(如果加上北韓的話是8千萬),我們幾乎在所有的領域做的都比中國人好. 真理就在這兒,不管你們是否接受它. 許多中國曆史學家也同意東夷是韓國人,並且創造了＂大汶口＂文化...... posted: sat nov 23, 2002 4:44 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- another good post that non chinese will able to deny it. during prehistＯry from neolithic to iron age, there were two cultures in nＯrth-east asaia. in nＯrtheastern part (s siberia, central asia, manchuria, Ａnd also current kＯrean peninsula), nomadic people dominated, whereas culture based on agriculture dominated southern china. nomadic people mostly spoke in altaic Ｏr other similar languages, while agriculture-based people mostly spoke in chinese-tibetan Ｏr proto-austronesian. chinese archaeologists have mostly focused on the latter. together with languages, features of bronze weaspons Ｏr tomb styles were clearly distinctive between the two. ultimately, climate changes to dry/cold conditions drove the nomadic people to the south (kＯreans Ａnd japanese) Ａnd to the west (turk, xian-no, etc). it is also quite certain that the nomadic people in nＯrthern china Ａnd southern siberia firstly cultivated allium altaicum, the progenitＯr of allium fistulosum, Ａnd allium sativum, the progenitＯr of allium longicuspis. with respect to various writing systems developed during the bronze age Ａnd/Ｏr during shang state, one thing is certain: writing systems came from the east (altaic/nomadic people), not from the west Ｏr the south. it is quite certain that people lived in the east were not han Ｏr hua people. do you know who published the first chinese dictionary in histＯry? it is quite interesting that people speaking in altaic, not chinese-tibetan, published it. what kind of spoken language did yin/shang people use? this will be a quite good question fＯr your explＯration into the ultimate inventＯr of current chinese characters. 翻譯: 在新石器時代到鐵器時代的史前文明中,在東北亞有兩種文明.在東北亞地區(西伯力亞/中亞/滿州以及現在的朝鮮半島),游牧民族居於統治地位,而農耕文明在中國南部居於統治地位.游牧民族大部分都說阿爾泰以及相似的語系,而農耕文明大部分說漢藏語系.中國考古學家大部分都集中研究后者.而兩種語言,青銅器的樣子和墓制的樣式完全不一樣,而又干又冷的天氣環境讓游牧民族進入了南部. 非常肯定的事情是,北中國和南西泊力亞培育了__(此處不知怎麼翻譯),____的祖先/ 在青銅器時代或者商代發展了不同的書寫系統,有一件事可以非常確定---書寫系統來自東部(阿爾泰/游牧民族),而不是西部和南部.還可以確定的是,東部的人不是漢族.你知道曆史上誰出版了第一本中文字字典嗎?非常有趣的事是這是說阿爾泰語的人做的而不是說漢藏語系的人做的.殷商時代的人使用的何種語言?這對你們研究誰是中文字的發明者是個非常好的問題. i think all anyone can say is that ＂kＯrean made mＯre contribution to the development of what is known as chinese language than currently acknowledged＂. wＯrkings of business, economy, technology, trade, Ａnd commerce are the same today as they were 5000 years ago. what drives linguistic development in today's wＯrld? well, it's computer. you don't need as much language to grow plant Ｏr raise animals. in other wＯrds, it is technology which drives language, not agriculture. so, technology in the old days were ceramics Ａnd casting technology, which kＯrea was Ａnd still is wＯrld leader. 翻譯: 我認為任何人都可以這麼說---韓國人對大家所認知的中文字發展貢獻更大.商業/經濟/技術/貿易和5千年前一樣,是什麼麼語言發展了當今世界?是電腦.你不會用語言去種養植物以及飼養動物,換句話說,是從語言中發展而來的技術,而不是農業.所以,在古代,技術就是制陶業和鍛造業,而這些技術韓國一直是世界的先驅. shanxi wrote: ............................chinese invented Ａnd created their own language. posting by peter is totally crap Ａnd ridiculous, the person trying to make a confusion here actually. ]+~ oh my gosh..i can't believe that chinese people are soo ingnＯrant about their own histＯry!!!!!!!!! chinese people didn't create their own language...they had to use another abＯriginal's written language, Ａnd then on, they called it their own!! because of inferiＯrity issues,,,they claim that they invented their own language..also peter kim is right on the chinese language being created by some other group besides chinese!! i think chinese (students) should relook at their histＯry once again,,,it seems to me that people (me fＯr instance) that are not chinese have a better knowledge of chinese histＯry than some chinese people do...some people are ethnocentric..Ａnd it seems to me that you are...Ｏr whoever that posted this..peter you're cＯrrect on this, except the kＯrean part of course 翻譯: 跟貼者說中國人發明了他們自己的語言,樓主在這里胡言亂語,混淆是非. 又有一個韓國白痴對跟貼反對者的反駁: 我的天哪,中國人居然對他們的曆史是這樣的無知,中國人根本沒有創造自己的語言,他們不得不用其他原住民的書寫系統,然后,他們說那是他們自己的.因為自卑的原因,他們說他們發明了自己的語言.所以樓主是正確的,是其他人而不是中國人發明了自己的語言,這些中國人應該回頭看看自己的曆史,就像我一樣,我對中國的曆史了解的比他們自己更清楚,那些中國人是一些種族中心論者,樓主,你是對的..... 其他國外網友的反駁: posted: sun sep 29, 2002 6:38 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone knowes that japanese Ａnd kＯrean both derived from chinese, why waste your time with this crap? 任何人都知道日本人和韓國人源自中國,你為什麼在這浪費時間廢話! flＯreo guest posted: sat nov 09, 2002 7:15 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- shoot, the first one in this thread didnt even have the necessary geographical idea about kＯrea Ａnd china. the palace location fＯr shang dynasty is in anyang which is almost in the middle of china. so how come kＯreans would travel so deep into china as to make the characters???this is way to stupid! i don't wanna talk mＯre about it! 注意,這個假設沒有對於韓國和中國的地理學的觀念,商朝的皇宮在安陽,幾乎是在中國的中心,那麼韓國人是怎麼長途跋涉到中國的中心去創造他們的中文字?這太愚蠢了,我不想再說什麼了/ anthony guest posted: fri nov 15, 2002 3:46 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone know the chinese has the longest continous culture in the wＯrld. chinese cultures have influences many cultures in southeast asia Ａnd east asia like japan Ａnd kＯrean. 任何人都知道中國有著世界最長的連續不短的曆史,中國文明影響了許多東南亞和東亞的國家,比如日本和韓國. posted: mon nov 25, 2002 9:17 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- kＯrean invented everything. 這個外國朋友很無奈的說:＂韓國人發明了一切>＂ guest posted: mon dec 02, 2002 12:50 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- confucius was chinese but lao tze not. taoism has kＯrean Ｏrigin too. 韓國人又跳出來說；＂孔子是中國人但是老子不是,韓國是道教的起源＂ posted: fri dec 20, 2002 12:22 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- enough, this topic is just provocating us to hate each other, Ａnd nobody (except some stone-head people) would believe that chinese character (han zi) is invented by kＯrean... 夠了夠了,這個主題只會引起相互仇恨,沒有人(除了一些石頭腦子的人)會認為中文字是韓國人發明的.... hkb posted: thu mar 13, 2003 2:49 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- technically, at the time when china had all its inventions, there wasn't a clear distinction of ＂kＯrean＂ Ｏr ＂japanese＂ they weren't really nationalities yet. except fＯr maybe japan. 學術上,那個時候當中國人有了那些發明的時候,還沒有一個明顯的關於韓國人和日本人的區分,他們還沒有自己的民族呢,(可能日本人已經是了). alaxieniye guest posted: wed jun 18, 2003 7:09 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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what i see? a gang of pro-kＯrean idiots telling bull-shits!!
chinese invented chinese. kＯrean invented kＯrean. kＯrean is an altaic language, with a lot of wＯrds from chinese! it's a sino-xenik ( but not a sino_tibetan language). kＯrean wＯrds bＯrrowed from chinese are of fujian Ｏrrigin ( hokkien, fukien  kＯrean could not invent hanzi, because hanzi do not fit fＯr kＯrean language at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!我都看到什麼了?一群史前韓國白痴在胡扯!! 中國人發明了中文字,韓國人發明了韓語. 韓語是一種阿爾泰語,其中很多都來自漢語.它是一種受漢語影響的語言(但不是漢藏語系),韓語是從中國福建地區借鑒而來,韓國人不可能發明中文字,因為那根本不適合他們的語言習慣/ posted: thu jul 10, 2003 5:34 pm post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the one whom wrote this has little knowledge of histＯry. it shows that how ignＯrant kＯrean are! it's such a shame! btw please study where does kＯrean comes from. 樓主對曆史一無所知,那只能說韓國人是多麼愚蠢,這是個羞恥,請先研究韓國人(韓語}從哪里來. ================================== 後續... 一個叫＂james campbell＂的老外對韓國白痴有理有據的反擊: in conclusion... i don't think the chinese get enough recognition fＯr their inventions. that includes chinese characters. chinese characters are not (cannot be defined as) kanji--it is rather that kanji are (can be defined as) chinese characters. the typical westerner is tricked into believing that kanji being japanese are a japanese invention. even i was tricked this way until i investigated. they may have changed the look of a few here, Ａnd added a few there, but they're not the invention of the japanese. this is the same fＯr kＯrean too. i even heard once, but i cannot prove it Ｏr give the source, that the chinese were on the verge of inventing a car many many centuries ago while europe was still in the dark ages Ａnd suffering from plagues Ａnd death, but the technology didn't advance far enough due to political unrest. even still, such a concept as a car, no matter how long ago it was thought of, if such plans have been documented by the chinese, then this concept could surely be called a chinese invention. so i don't give a care about the names dongyi, shang, dawenkou, Ｏr whatever, the kＯreans cannot be claimed responsible fＯr any of the chinese language Ｏr inventions. a kＯrean should not try Ａnd deceive people by digging so far into histＯry so that others will be easily tricked into believing they are a true race of innovation. they are the most backward, selfish, inward looking people i have ever met, Ａnd until recently have always been against any development happening in the wＯrld outside of kＯrea. they have always positioned themselves as the ＂little brother＂ of china (read: ?p?̧；̬； hah--look at the shape of their peninsula), Ａnd throughout histＯry they always ran to the ＂real Ａnd only＂ recognized empＯrer in china fＯr help Ａnd guidance. china has had open communication with the west through the silk road Ａnd with the wise teachings from india fＯr millennia. they have been open to the wＯrld, Ａnd have been innovative themselves providing their inventions to the wＯrld. do not some people say that contact with china actually influenced italian cuisine many centuries ago? what did kＯrea Ａnd japan contribute to europe? hangul? kimono? fＯr all the pride running through the blood veins of the kＯrean, if the chinese had an ounce of it, they would be a greater nation than they are. how could they let the japanese trample them in wwii? the chinese should rise up Ａnd be proud of everything that is chinese, Ａnd do not let the kＯreans Ａnd japanese take the credit. maybe they should have taxed the japanese Ａnd kＯreans fＯr using their characters, Ｏr fＯrce them to abＡndon the script if they would not be willing to be part of their empire. but that goes to prove to you how benevolent the chinese actually are Ａnd that they were willing to allow the outer lying barbarian tribes attempt to educate themselves. besides, it was their fＯrefathers such as confucius, mencius Ａnd many others teaching Ａnd spreading humane values, all such wise fＯrefathers that the outer lying barbarians lacked. nobody invented language. there was a natural need fＯr communication Ａnd it evolved naturally. back to top james campbell guest posted: tue oct 29, 2002 10:45 am post subject: re: kＯrean invented chinese language -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ａnd i fＯrgot to mention, as an answer westerners do not find a use fＯr hangul Ｏr kimonos at all. but you can find at this fＯrum that so many westerners want the chinese characters, to have them tattooed on their bodies. i never heard of westerners wanting hangul Ｏr hiragana tattooed on their bodies. so still, even the chinese characters are very accepted to the westerners too. i even heard that the kＯrean government was trying so hard fＯr the international community to accept their invention that they tried to convince small native tribes to use hangul to write their language, but i never heard of this actually happening. 我認為中國人對他們自己的發明沒有有著足夠的認知,這包括中文字.中國中文字不是日本中文字,倒可以說日本中文字是中國中文字.典型的西方人錯以為日本中文字是日本人的發明.甚至我也被欺騙了直到我研究了它.中文字可能已經在這改變了一點兒,在那又增加了一點兒,但它不是日本人發明的,更不是韓國人. 我曾經有次聽說(但我不能證明),中國在許多世紀前差點發明了汽車,而那時候歐洲人正處在黑暗的年代,蒙受著災難和瘟疫.但是中國那時候沒有足夠的技術,而且政治騷亂.但是,就＂車＂這個概念,不管它是多久前想的,但是這個計划已經被中國記錄了,或許這個概念可以叫做中國發明. 所以我並不關心什麼＂東夷＂.＂大汶口＂什麼的,但韓國人不能宣稱他們發明了中文字.韓國人不應該嘗試和挖掘曆史來欺騙人們,以至於人們會相信他們才是發明源泉的謊言.韓國人是我曾見過的如此倒退,自私,只關心自己的人.直到現在韓國人也反對韓國之外的發展. 韓國是中國的＂小兄弟＂,從地圖的也可以看出來,他們的整個曆史就是尋求他們＂真正並且唯一＂的帝國---中國的幫助和引導.中國早就通過絲綢之路和西方進行溝通,並且從印度接受了佛教,他們早就向世界開放,並且提供了他們自己的發明,中國人在數世紀前影響了意大利人的烹飪.而日本人和韓國人對歐洲人貢獻了什麼??韓國泡菜??日本和服?? 驕傲貫穿著所有韓國人的血脈,如果中國人有那麼一點,就可以變成比現在更偉大的民族.是什麼讓他們在二戰中飽受日本的蹂躪?中國人應該提昇對他本民族的自信,不要讓韓國人和日本人拿走那些本來屬於他們的榮譽.可能他們會被日本人和韓國人指責使用他們自己的中文字,或者被強迫放棄曾經屬於他們帝國榮譽一部分的中文字.但是那更可以證明,中國人是多麼的仁慈,他們願意讓這些野蠻異族教育他們自己. 除此之外,他們是諸如孔子/孟子/和其他傳播人類文明價值的祖先,而這些正是這些野蠻異族所缺乏的 沒有人發明語言,它是自然演化和交流的必然. 我忘了提醒,西方人根本不原了解韓語和日語的使用方法,但你會發現在這個論壇上有如此多的西方人喜歡中文字,甚至把中文字刺青在他們身體上.我從來沒遇見過西方人把韓語或者日語刻在他們身體上.因此,中文字更被西方人所接受. 我曾經聽說韓國政府非常賣力的讓國際社會信服他們發明了韓語來記錄自己的語言,實際上我從來沒有聽說過這曾經發生過. 韓國人也不是什麼好人哦!(完) ======================================================== 王建民是韓國人? 南韓外電報導: Who is Chien-Ming Wang ? 如果你對此名字不熟析，或是從未聽過，那代表的你可能鮮少關心體育新聞， 或是與世界脫節。相信國人對朴贊浩這個名字一定不陌生，一個在MLB創下單季18勝， 至今仍為亞洲選手的單季最高紀錄。這項令國人驕傲的紀錄，被一個同樣來自亞洲的 台灣選手Chien-Ming Wang，於9/20號追平，成為『朴贊浩第二』。 當亞洲各國媒體大肆報導這位來自台灣的選手時，卻鮮少知道，這位選手跟我國卻 有著極深的淵源。當年我國李氏王朝末期國內遭日本入侵，國之動亂， 許多皇族因此向他國遷徙以避動亂，而屬仁祖九世孫—恩信君的庶出的『金』姓皇 族，也隨之遷徙。 當時金姓皇族中的『金盃匕』帶領家部向南遷，遷至於今日之『玫品』。 後又因日軍迫害，『金盃匕』之子『金濠笅』，率領剩餘家部，繼續向南出發，經 『怍璧』、『艾幗才泮』出了東海後輾轉遷移至了現今台灣台南的東勢。 遷至台灣後金盃匕與金濠笅的後代為了怕日軍迫害將姓氏由金改為王。 改為王姓是因為金與KING同音，而KING之意代表著『王』，象徵著金氏一族為李氏之 皇族血脈。而Chien-Ming Wang正是金氏皇族之後代，當然爾Chien-Ming Wang也屬大 韓民族之ㄧ員。 當Chien-Ming Wang追平其前輩朴贊浩單季18勝紀錄時，同時也代表著我大韓民族人 才輩出，在世界的棒球體壇上，佔有重要地位。 當Chien-Ming Wang追平單季18勝紀錄時，也希望他朝著朴贊浩生涯113勝邁進， 為我大韓民族在棒球體壇上繼續發光。 ================================================== |
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這個厲害!!
沒想到韓國人那麼屌，
把死的事情說成是活的， 王建明如果是韓國人， 那我表妹應該也是了， 他乾脆說只要姓王都是韓國人， 這樣比較快吧! 我本人還不知道原來韓國人那麼自戀一一"， 好恐怖喔... 而且文字、語言這種東西， 是經過演化而來的吧! 要不然哪來的簡體字跟繁體字， 四川話跟上海話、 台語跟客家語， 整個很瞎~  難怪我們老師說， 不管是什麼文字， 什麼朝代所留下來的文章， 都是經過很就後所留下來的， 文字經過演化， 文章要得要重新研究， 才能知道是什麼意思。 韓國人的口才， 值得我們學習， 下次有誰想學法律， 別到台大法律系， 敢脆到韓國去學， 那會比較快~   |
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其實看了幾段便之這文沒有回的意義...
都是過去式了XD 論者的觀點~好東西都是韓國的... 所以只能說句:您真內行 |
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