聊天 - 到美國唸書英文一定會好嗎?

barrielee · 2010-02-11, 12:00 AM

這兩天有則新聞關於某人的親筆信函,評論都說是舊聞沒啥好討論,只是好奇媒體常稱他在美國取得雙法學碩士學位,英文程度很好,看到下面的原文簡直令人驚嘆不已

柏克萊加州大學和紐約大學都不是混的學校?怎會出現如此奇怪的現象?是研究所已經屬於賺錢類型比較好混?真不知他的碩士論文怎麼寫出來的?

以他的英文水準應付日常生活不會有問題,可是要在美國找法律相關工作就差太遠了

堂妹高中時移民美國,後唸完大學考取會計師證照,自問英文發音幾乎跟老美沒分別,可是工作上就與同事有點格格不入,理由是英文表達還不夠道地,別人在說俚語或雙關語笑話,他不一定聽得懂,因此,不易完全融入老美的圈子,後來利用下班時間去進修更高層次的道地美語課程....,現在已經嫁老美生小孩,也當上了會計師..

下面是雙碩士的大作,內容就不必討論,純欣賞人家的英文程度

It is a very urgent issue. We noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have disclosed ptcs regarding the property
in Virginia and the basic info of Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news

What is the beneficial owner of the company?
Is there any our personal names or any personal info under the company?
Can they get any info about the company?
The current situation is that they are chasing this matter by any means even illegal
Please make sure that they are unable to find any further info about us through the company
If anyone comes to your or Mitch's office any time, please answer "no comment"

atie · 2010-02-11, 07:30 PM

如果是我的話

我想要先能聽得懂話和可以說得出話

然後再慢慢的深入

grc45 · 2010-02-12, 12:25 AM

以上是篇災難性的破文章，就算是口喻或便條紙的交代，此寫法程度只有小學一年級的水平﹗

以下是上班時間，再度破例發文；若我十二點回家後，已是台灣的午夜後，故予造次。

我實在搞不懂用縮寫的用意為何？更難以想像主詞與動詞都會搞錯，介詞更慘；這比未上學的孩童都還不如﹗

原文

It is a very urgent issue. We noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have disclosed ptcs regarding the property
in Virginia and the basic info of Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news

What is the beneficial owner of the company?
Is there any our personal names or any personal info under the company?
Can they get any info about the company?
The current situation is that they are chasing this matter by any means even illegal
Please make sure that they are unable to find any further info about us through the company
If anyone comes to your or Mitch's office any time, please answer "no comment"

批改

It (This) is a very urgent issue. We have noticed ( have + noticed 為現在完成式，漏用了 have 就代表連英文的門檻都沒踏入，因為那是英文與中文完全不同的地方) that some reporters and personal investigaters have ( + publically) disclosed ptcs (practices - 慎重文章書寫時禁止使用縮寫) regarding the property
in Virginia and the basic info (information) of 應改為 about Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news(此標紅句，狗屁不通﹗畫蛇添足，故予以句點終結。)

What (Who) is the beneficial owner of the company? What 指的是事物而不是人，用Who才是在表明the beneficial owner。

Is there(Is there應去掉，改用Have才對，Have.............been any our personal names or any (any 後要加 of ，那是中文語氣而非英文的﹗) personal info under(info under應改寫為如後的紅字) information been disclosed by the company?

Can they get (應用 obtain，因為寫與說在用辭上是不同的﹗） any info (information 才對，這又不是在MSN Messenger 上談天﹗) about the company?

The current situation is that 此句為中文語氣，應與後句合併修改為(They currently pursuing) they are chasing- 語氣與在玩家家酒的沒兩樣﹗ this matter by any means (+ necessary.) (+ Some are) even (using) illegal (+methods.)

Please make sure (make sure 應改為 ensure ) that they are unable to find (+ out) any further info (information) about us through the company (應加句點.完成該段的語氣﹗)

If anyone comes (+ in) to your (連 office 這個目的地都可以省略，真是佩服﹗）or (+ into) Mitch's office(加介詞,並去除後面的贅辭 any time) any time, please answer "no comment" (應改為 please do not speak to them. ) 這又是中文語氣 - 半調子的英語 - 不是英文﹗

寫的實在是太爛了；頭痛萬分後的改寫﹗

This is a very urgent issue. We have noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have publically disclosed practices regarding

the property in Virginia, as well as basic information about pegasus Virginia LLC.

Who is the beneficial owner of the company?

Have any of our personal names or personal information been disclosed by the company?

Can they obtain any information about the company?

They are currently pursuing this matter by any means necessary. Some are even using illegal methods.

Please ensure that they are unable to find out any further information about us through the company.

If anyone comes in to your office, or into Mitch's office, please do not speak to them.

.

barrielee · 2010-02-12, 01:08 AM

引用:

作者: grc45

以上是篇災難性的破文章，就算是口喻或便條紙的交代寫法都不如，程度只有小學一年級的水平﹗

以下是上班時間，再度破例發文；若我十二點回家後，已是台灣的午夜後，故予造次。

我實在搞不懂用縮寫的用意為何？更難以想像主詞與動詞都會搞錯，介詞更慘；這比未上學的孩童都還不如﹗

It (This) is a very urgent issue. We have noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have disclosed ptcs (practices - 慎重文章書禁止使用縮寫) regarding the property
in Virginia and the basic info of Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news

What (Who) is the beneficial owner of the company?
Is there any our personal names or any personal info under the company?
Can they get any info about the company?
The current situation is that they are chasing this matter by any means even illegal
Please make sure that they are unable to find any further info about us through the company
If anyone comes to your or Mitch's office any time, please answer "no comment"

寫的實在是太爛了；頭痛萬分後的改寫﹗

This ia a very urgent issue. We have noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have publically disclosed practices regarding the property in Virginia, as well as basic information about pegasus Virginia LLC.

Who is the beneficial owner of the company?

Have any of our personal names or personal information been disclosed by the company?

Can they obtain any information about the company?

They are currently pursuing this matter by any means necessary. Some are even using illegal methods.

Please ensure that they are unable to find out any further information about us through the company.

If anyone comes in to your office, or into Mitch's office, please do not speak to them.

G兄作者可是擁有雙碩士,也許唸書的錢是a來的,根本就沒有好好唸,在美國可否找人代寫碩士論文?

我不解的是為何相同的法學碩士要唸兩個?何不拿到第一個後直接申請博士班?

補充一點,他在美國待了五年多,除了英文破,幾乎是中式英文

看到他的親筆手稿,第一句最後是用in our country,可能發覺不妥刪丟改為in the news
我猜中文的原意大慨是~我們發覺記者及調查者把"美國維吉尼亞幹的狗屁倒灶事"在我們的國家揭發,他自己修改後變成~察覺到記者及調查者把"美國維吉尼亞幹的狗屁倒灶事"在媒體揭發

因為看信的對象是身在美國的律師,不管用在我們的國家或在媒體似乎是多餘的
在台灣寫信給對方告知"東窗事發",還需要加上in our country/in the news?

美國人看到他的信,必然是用猜的

grc45 · 2010-02-12, 01:42 AM

引用:

作者: barrielee

G兄作者可是擁有雙碩士,也許唸書的錢是a來的,根本就沒有好好唸,在美國可否找人代寫碩士論文?

我不解的是為何相同的法學碩士要唸兩個?何不拿到第一個後直接申請博士班?

補充一點,他在美國待了五年多,除了英文破,幾乎是中式英文

看到他的親筆手稿,第一句最後是用in our country,可能發覺不妥刪丟改為in the news
我猜中文的原意大慨是~我們發覺記者及調查者把"美國維吉尼亞幹的狗屁倒灶事"在我們的國家揭發,他自己修改後變成~察覺到記者及調查者把"美國維吉尼亞幹的狗屁倒灶事"在媒體揭發

因為看信的對象是身在美國的律師,不管用在我們的國家或在媒體似乎是多餘的
在台灣寫信給對方告知"東窗事發",還需要加上in our country/in the news?

美國人看到他的信,必然是用猜的

我懷疑該學位是買來的；在海外有很多是陪睡覺得到學位的；有些使用不正當手段取得的學位。

個人上班時間只有半天（週一到週五，每天上午八點到十二點），剛在上篇中正在批內部文件中，無法有充裕的時間來具體說明犯錯的內容。現在已回家十來分鐘了，待會兒再來繼續批改。

barrielee · 2010-02-12, 01:31 PM

引用:

作者: grc45

我懷疑該學位是買來的；在海外有很多是陪睡覺得到學位的；有些使用不正當手段取得的學位。

個人上班時間只有半天（週一到週五，每天上午八點到十二點），剛在上篇中正在批內部文件中，無法有充裕的時間來具體說明犯錯的內容。現在已回家十來分鐘了，待會兒再來繼續批改。

台灣很多父母辛辛苦苦把小孩送到美國/歐洲國家留學,以為回國後至少英文能力比本土大學畢業會佔優勢

如果小孩不用功,加上整天都與華人同學混在一起,英文能有多好?父母花了錢變冤大頭

過去曾在美商公司的經歷,有求職者拿著美國文憑面試遇上老美主管,英語程度有多少斤兩無所遁形,面試第一關就被刷掉(老美會很生氣取得美國學位,連基本的英文程度都不足,完全不會考慮聘請這類人當員工)

ps:當然主題內容的作者沒花半毛錢到美國唸書,心中想著的是如何安置a來的龐大財富自然無心向學,如果不是東窗事發,可以想像他們留在美國享受生活,根本沒要找工作,英文夠應付日常生活就可以了

superxboy · 2010-02-12, 06:59 PM

引用:

作者: grc45

我懷疑該學位是買來的；在海外有很多是陪睡覺得到學位的；有些使用不正當手段取得的學位。

個人上班時間只有半天（週一到週五，每天上午八點到十二點），剛在上篇中正在批內部文件中，無法有充裕的時間來具體說明犯錯的內容。現在已回家十來分鐘了，待會兒再來繼續批改。

原來電影陪睡買學位是真的

...當年應該多讀點書的

女大生：「熊教授...人家的學位靠你了。」

熊教授：「妳知道該怎麼做了。」

女大生：「嗯...人家當然知道！」

女大生：「(大喊)師母可以進來抓人了！」

熊教授：「..............」

2010-02-11, 12:00 AM	#1
barrielee 註冊會員榮譽勳章勳章總數14 UID - 10501 在線等級: 註冊日期: 2002-12-12 住址: 台北文章: 5090 精華: 0 現金: 11467 金幣資產: 22177 金幣	聊天 - 到美國唸書英文一定會好嗎? 這兩天有則新聞關於某人的親筆信函,評論都說是舊聞沒啥好討論,只是好奇媒體常稱他在美國取得雙法學碩士學位,英文程度很好,看到下面的原文簡直令人驚嘆不已柏克萊加州大學和紐約大學都不是混的學校?怎會出現如此奇怪的現象?是研究所已經屬於賺錢類型比較好混?真不知他的碩士論文怎麼寫出來的? 以他的英文水準應付日常生活不會有問題,可是要在美國找法律相關工作就差太遠了堂妹高中時移民美國,後唸完大學考取會計師證照,自問英文發音幾乎跟老美沒分別,可是工作上就與同事有點格格不入,理由是英文表達還不夠道地,別人在說俚語或雙關語笑話,他不一定聽得懂,因此,不易完全融入老美的圈子,後來利用下班時間去進修更高層次的道地美語課程....,現在已經嫁老美生小孩,也當上了會計師.. 下面是雙碩士的大作,內容就不必討論,純欣賞人家的英文程度 It is a very urgent issue. We noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have disclosed ptcs regarding the property in Virginia and the basic info of Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news What is the beneficial owner of the company? Is there any our personal names or any personal info under the company? Can they get any info about the company? The current situation is that they are chasing this matter by any means even illegal Please make sure that they are unable to find any further info about us through the company If anyone comes to your or Mitch's office any time, please answer "no comment"

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grc45 長老會員榮譽勳章勳章總數15 UID - 16409 在線等級: 註冊日期: 2002-12-23 文章: 8173 精華: 1 現金: 1755101 金幣資產: 1792088 金幣	以上是篇災難性的破文章，就算是口喻或便條紙的交代，此寫法程度只有小學一年級的水平﹗ 以下是上班時間，再度破例發文；若我十二點回家後，已是台灣的午夜後，故予造次。我實在搞不懂用縮寫的用意為何？更難以想像主詞與動詞都會搞錯，介詞更慘；這比未上學的孩童都還不如﹗ 原文 It is a very urgent issue. We noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have disclosed ptcs regarding the property in Virginia and the basic info of Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news What is the beneficial owner of the company? Is there any our personal names or any personal info under the company? Can they get any info about the company? The current situation is that they are chasing this matter by any means even illegal Please make sure that they are unable to find any further info about us through the company If anyone comes to your or Mitch's office any time, please answer "no comment" 批改 It (This) is a very urgent issue. We have noticed ( have + noticed 為現在完成式，漏用了 have 就代表連英文的門檻都沒踏入，因為那是英文與中文完全不同的地方) that some reporters and personal investigaters have ( + publically) disclosed ptcs (practices - 慎重文章書寫時禁止使用縮寫) regarding the property in Virginia and the basic info (information) of 應改為 about Pegasus Virginia LLC, in the news(此標紅句，狗屁不通﹗畫蛇添足，故予以句點終結。) What (Who) is the beneficial owner of the company? What 指的是事物而不是人，用Who才是在表明the beneficial owner。 Is there(Is there應去掉，改用Have才對，Have.............been any our personal names or any (any 後要加 of ，那是中文語氣而非英文的﹗) personal info under(info under應改寫為如後的紅字) information been disclosed by the company? Can they get (應用 obtain，因為寫與說在用辭上是不同的﹗） any info (information 才對，這又不是在MSN Messenger 上談天﹗) about the company? The current situation is that 此句為中文語氣，應與後句合併修改為(They currently pursuing) they are chasing- 語氣與在玩家家酒的沒兩樣﹗ this matter by any means (+ necessary.) (+ Some are) even (using) illegal (+methods.) Please make sure (make sure 應改為 ensure ) that they are unable to find (+ out) any further info (information) about us through the company (應加句點.完成該段的語氣﹗) If anyone comes (+ in) to your (連 office 這個目的地都可以省略，真是佩服﹗）or (+ into) Mitch's office(加介詞,並去除後面的贅辭 any time) any time, please answer "no comment" (應改為 please do not speak to them. ) 這又是中文語氣 - 半調子的英語 - 不是英文﹗ 寫的實在是太爛了；頭痛萬分後的改寫﹗ This is a very urgent issue. We have noticed that some reporters and personal investigaters have publically disclosed practices regarding the property in Virginia, as well as basic information about pegasus Virginia LLC. Who is the beneficial owner of the company? Have any of our personal names or personal information been disclosed by the company? Can they obtain any information about the company? They are currently pursuing this matter by any means necessary. Some are even using illegal methods. Please ensure that they are unable to find out any further information about us through the company. If anyone comes in to your office, or into Mitch's office, please do not speak to them. . 此帖於 2010-02-16 02:23 PM 被 grc45 編輯.

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